[ Matt takes a long drink from his beer. Oh, he's done already? That's fine. ]
"Like" might be a little strong. Jury's still out.
[ Then again, the truth is Matt isn't sure how much he can trust Murdock, but he'd still trust him over a stranger. Working together wouldn't be any stranger than existing in the same room as a man who lived an alternate version of your life. ]
But you have to admit, it'd be stranger to avoid each other, wouldn't it?
[ But there's a note of consideration to it. He's not convinced, he still needs some time to think about it. He's not sure he wants to tie himself down to this other Matt, that he wants to intertwine their fates so completely. ]
[ Matt grins, having a good chuckle. Okay, that's pretty good. Murdock seemed to really enjoy the devil angle, which makes Matt wonder...
But he can't let the devil out of the bag, so to speak. Just because they have a few key people and details in common doesn't mean that Murdock moonlights as a masked vigilante. Matt needs to focus on something real first. He may hate everything about this place, but he's keeping a lid on his anger. For now.
Besides, having another Matt around is distraction enough. He's pretty sure Foggy would agree. ]
I have to say, it's always interesting talking to you.
[ Look, it's a very weird experience. Matt's still not sure how he feels about it, but like Murdock said... there's something about the "what if" that keeps him on the hook. ]
Yeah, it's... it's not every day you get to meet someone that proves a butterfly flapped its wings somewhere, and here we are.
Aliens fell out of a hole in the sky a couple years ago and nearly destroyed most of Manhattan. The multiverse is only a few steps away from "aliens exist and they can rip holes in reality to invade earth."
[ It was horrible, btw. Really terrible. But also, this multiverse thing is not nearly as bad, at least. ]
Yeah. We have the Avengers. I can't tell if us having superheroes means it's more or less likely for supervillains to start popping up, but. It kind of feels like it, sometimes.
[ He and Foggy go back and forth on this argument sometimes for "fun." Well, it's not as much fun now that Matt's technically a superhero, but he doesn't see himself as one. ]
[ Well, Matt's smile drops at that. Oh, he is going to be so much more overbearing at Peter knowing that. Then again, the kid did mention something about Thanos and a lot death, didn't he? God. God. Matt doesn't want to think about whether it's in Peter's cards to just die young. Good lord. ]
That... is a relief, yeah. Foggy would say it's not for lack of trying -- but to be clear, we're doing okay in my world too. Just, you know.
[ He waves a hand, though there's clearly more to this answer. ]
[ The "old friends" are Elektra and the Hand but good luck getting Matt to admit to that.
Matt orders them another round. ]
Do you box?
[ It comes out of the blue, but. If Murdock left Hell's Kitchen, maybe he has another method of "anger management." Because it sure as hell ain't praying. ]
[ That is some kind of fucked up for sure, don't tell Matt that... ]
Because of...?
[ Well, Battlin' Jack. Matt goes quiet for a moment, before continuing. ]
No, it's... my mother walked out on my father. He boxed to try and provide for me, but... in the end, they wanted him to throw a fight. He didn't.
[ He swallows. He understands. He was listening to the fight that day, he'd encouraged his father to fight. To win. He blames himself. It always comes down to blaming himself—Matt is so good at that. ]
He... The money he earned that day, he saved it for me. He tried to make sure I'd have something once he... well. Once he was gone.
[ Matt shakes his head, but he can't keep the emotion out of his voice.]
It's my fault. I told him I wanted to hear him win. I told him I'd be listening to the match, if I—If I hadn't encouraged him, he...
[ He sucks in a breath, trying not to break. He hasn't told anyone about this—no one but Foggy, but even Foggy gets a more watered down version than this. Maybe he's hoping Murdock understands? ]
It's the only thing I have that connects me to him. Besides my blood and my name, it's... it feels right.
You were a kid. And he was in debt with Silvermane, that was going to catch up with him eventually.
[ There's no sympathy in Matt's voice, almost no emotion. He's not being intentionally harsh, he's just stating the facts as they are. His father had made his choices -- including the choice to become indebted to the mafia. It never would have ended well.
But even a blind man can see Matt is hurting so he decides to give him something in return: ]
My mother didn't leave. We were walking home together when the accident happened. She died as a result of it.
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[ he laughs. So forward! But then again Matt had already suggested they go in together. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad. ]
I knew you liked me. It's the same thing with the app--you can't help but want to talk to me.
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"Like" might be a little strong. Jury's still out.
[ Then again, the truth is Matt isn't sure how much he can trust Murdock, but he'd still trust him over a stranger. Working together wouldn't be any stranger than existing in the same room as a man who lived an alternate version of your life. ]
But you have to admit, it'd be stranger to avoid each other, wouldn't it?
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[ But there's a note of consideration to it. He's not convinced, he still needs some time to think about it. He's not sure he wants to tie himself down to this other Matt, that he wants to intertwine their fates so completely. ]
You're not too bad, I guess.
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[ Matt grins, having a good chuckle. Okay, that's pretty good. Murdock seemed to really enjoy the devil angle, which makes Matt wonder...
But he can't let the devil out of the bag, so to speak. Just because they have a few key people and details in common doesn't mean that Murdock moonlights as a masked vigilante. Matt needs to focus on something real first. He may hate everything about this place, but he's keeping a lid on his anger. For now.
Besides, having another Matt around is distraction enough. He's pretty sure Foggy would agree. ]
I have to say, it's always interesting talking to you.
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The "what if" of it all is pretty intriguing.
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Yeah, it's... it's not every day you get to meet someone that proves a butterfly flapped its wings somewhere, and here we are.
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[ Because if not he was taking it very well ]
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[ It was horrible, btw. Really terrible. But also, this multiverse thing is not nearly as bad, at least. ]
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[ Earth-65 has its own problems, but not alien invasions yet (?) ]
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[ He and Foggy go back and forth on this argument sometimes for "fun." Well, it's not as much fun now that Matt's technically a superhero, but he doesn't see himself as one. ]
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[ He says it in part just to organize all this information in his brain; get it to stick. ]
We have Spider-woman.
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We have Spider-Man. Though he's mostly just up in Queens.
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[ He doesn't know.....but like Peter had tried to a lizard guy in his world, so. ]
All these kids with their powers. What's next, a girl with all the powers of a squirrel?
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[ Matt Murdock is going to protect Peter Parker with His Life. ]
Only if she gets them from being bitten by a radioactive squirrel. I could honestly imagine a world where that's real.
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[ In a way, but also, not at all. ]
So, all things considered, at least you know in my world you're not dead.
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That... is a relief, yeah. Foggy would say it's not for lack of trying -- but to be clear, we're doing okay in my world too. Just, you know.
[ He waves a hand, though there's clearly more to this answer. ]
Clients and old friends. And Fisk.
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[ But there's clearly something more here. And he wants to know what it is but he's also trying to be careful on how he asks things. ]
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Matt orders them another round. ]
Do you box?
[ It comes out of the blue, but. If Murdock left Hell's Kitchen, maybe he has another method of "anger management." Because it sure as hell ain't praying. ]
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Not my go-to activity. But I'm assuming this is not a non sequitur and is related for some reason?
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[ He shrugs. They are definitely only related in that way! ]
I've been boxing for years. I still go to Fogwell's.
[ Where his, or perhaps their? Father trained, in other words. ]
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Everyone needs a hobby, I guess. You don't have any negative associations with it?
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Because of...?
[ Well, Battlin' Jack. Matt goes quiet for a moment, before continuing. ]
No, it's... my mother walked out on my father. He boxed to try and provide for me, but... in the end, they wanted him to throw a fight. He didn't.
[ He swallows. He understands. He was listening to the fight that day, he'd encouraged his father to fight. To win. He blames himself. It always comes down to blaming himself—Matt is so good at that. ]
He... The money he earned that day, he saved it for me. He tried to make sure I'd have something once he... well. Once he was gone.
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See? Negative associations.
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It's my fault. I told him I wanted to hear him win. I told him I'd be listening to the match, if I—If I hadn't encouraged him, he...
[ He sucks in a breath, trying not to break. He hasn't told anyone about this—no one but Foggy, but even Foggy gets a more watered down version than this. Maybe he's hoping Murdock understands? ]
It's the only thing I have that connects me to him. Besides my blood and my name, it's... it feels right.
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[ There's no sympathy in Matt's voice, almost no emotion. He's not being intentionally harsh, he's just stating the facts as they are. His father had made his choices -- including the choice to become indebted to the mafia. It never would have ended well.
But even a blind man can see Matt is hurting so he decides to give him something in return: ]
My mother didn't leave. We were walking home together when the accident happened. She died as a result of it.
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cw: suicide ideation
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